That's good, I think.

[He's quiet for a moment, though, once that's out there.]

...Was it okay, though? That we were doing that at all.

[He hesitates.]

I know it's okay if you're trying to beat people who...cheat a lot. At the running. It's okay to beat them, even if it's in ways they don't like, because they cheat and so they deserve to lose.

But this was helping people who cheat win against people who cheat harder. Is that...still okay?